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Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:09 AM // 00:09   #21
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Thanks, now....whats "councillor"?
EDIT: oh so councillor just a fancy name for some boring poster? I

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Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:10 AM // 00:10   #22
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i'm serious. there's nothing special about concillor.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:13 AM // 00:13   #23
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Hooray for being a citizen.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:14 AM // 00:14   #24
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How about a new upper tier title in honor of utopian classics... the Philosopher King.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:14 AM // 00:14   #25
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Thanks, now....whats "councillor"?
it is the title above the one you just had and is lower than the one you will have next
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:15 AM // 00:15   #26
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How about a new upper tier title in honor of utopian classics... the Philosopher King.
haha, how bout .....that one philospher that wrote Candid. i actually liked that book.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 12:19 AM // 00:19   #27
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haha, how bout .....that one philospher that wrote Candid. i actually liked that book.
and yes this is the best of all possible worlds
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41   #28
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I don't know bout you guys but charles dickens bored me to the verge of death with "great expectations" and "oliver twist" AGH lol and how many are needed to get cervantes? lol and whats higher than mine? right now
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43   #29
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1500 is necessary for Cervantes, i think.

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Old Oct 27, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43   #30
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and yes this is the best of all possible worlds
ah, there we go. Voltaire.

and that philosophy is some optomistic crap. i don't like it.

hooray Voltaire!!!!
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 07:00 AM // 07:00   #31
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hmm I generally like the works that are considered classics (as long as I'm allowed to take them in and enjoy instead of having to study every aspect of it). My favorite classic is probably The Count of Monte Cristo although I don't know anyone else who has read it start to finish. That and I kind of like the stuff like Machiavelli's The Prince
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 01:44 PM // 13:44   #32
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I love Machiavelli. He tells the truth that no one wants to hear. Everyone wants to be all touchy-feely these days and BS around about how the world works. You want to know how it REALLY works? Read Machiavelli.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18   #33
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Macchiavelli and Nietzche are great, but terrible in the wrong hands.

Candide is amazing.

And as far as Brave New World goes, the book is incredible, as is 1984 and Fahrenheit 451.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 02:59 PM // 14:59   #34
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I liked Sinclair's "The Jungle". Thomas Hardy bores me to death.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 03:26 PM // 15:26   #35
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"1984" is absolutely amazing. It should be required reading for anyone taking any kind of government or politics class.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 04:49 PM // 16:49   #36
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I agree completely. No one should graduate high school without reading 1984 and having someone who can identify the similarities between the book and modern government/society deliver a detailed discertation on the book.

It cracks me up when people think that the book was just about Communist Russia. That's why it's on the Republican Party's recommended reading list, which is absolutely hilarious.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 05:23 PM // 17:23   #37
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The whole "newspeak" thing just really hits home for me. I took a lot of English classes in college and they would talk about how language is being "dumbed down" all the time. Slang becomes acceptable, complicated terms fall out of use... scary.
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Most definitely, man. And look at the "wars" we're having! The "War on Drugs", the "War on Poverty", the "War on Terror"....

Now we're dealing with "terror" and "tyranny" and an "axis of evil" so that we can fight for "freedom"....

All of our government branches (NSA, CIA, FBI, FEMA, FDA....) are known by letters, not names....

If all this isn't ambiguous newspeak, I don't know what is.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 10:43 PM // 22:43   #39
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The whole "newspeak" thing just really hits home for me. I took a lot of English classes in college and they would talk about how language is being "dumbed down" all the time. Slang becomes acceptable, complicated terms fall out of use... scary.

that's why there's teachers like my English teacher. she "encourages" us to use complicated words that 90% of the population has never heard before. (well, not really "encouraged"...she never assigned it to us.)

ever heard of an ombudsman? or aqua regia?

thanks to my teacher, i do now. hooray eccentric English teachers.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 10:47 PM // 22:47   #40
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Farenheit 451 was one of my alltime favorites. The count of Monte Cristo was great and yes I have read it beggining to end, though it might have been abridge .
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